Let me preface this by saying this is my first pair of riding pants. I've been riding for 35 years always in jeans the last 5 years touring on a Goldwing. I got curious to see how true riding pants differed from jeans. I live in Southern Arizona so I wanted something that wouldn't be too hot. So I started looking. When I came across these pants I thought they must be cheap knockoffs but I read some of the reviews and was really surprised how much people seemed to like these pants. I decided I would give them a chance so I measured my belly and my inseam 41x31 ?. I normally wear 34x31 jeans. I ordered 1XL short. They arrived within a few days! When I opened them up I was shocked at the quality of the construction. The stitching the materials this looks to me like solid protection. I excitedly tried them on and they do come up around your belly but super comfy. They do look kind of strange pulled up like that but once you put a jacket on it's unnoticeable. The length was long without boots on they almost touched the ground in bare feet. They are heavy so they tended to slide down while walking around barefoot but they have what looks like about 2-3 inches of adjustment on each side so I could make it tighter but seems like it would lose some of the comfort especially when I sit down. I put on my boots and jacket and they are the perfect length especially sitting on the bike. I also was able to zip them into my Fulmer motorcycle jacket which eliminated the slide down while walking around. As for appearance, they are quite stylish in my opinion with the jacket and boots on. From a distance mine look black and white. Close up you can see the white is more of a grey. I did take them for a couple of 300 and 400 mile rides in 68-88 degree temperatures. I can say they are more comfortable than jeans. They aren't tight in the knees or hips like jeans are and they do let in quite a bit of air. I'm anxious to try them here in Arizona when the temperatures get over 100 degrees. At 68 degrees they were a little bit cool so I think what I'll do is either try long John's or sweats underneath in cooler than 65 degree temperatures. I did notice as other reviewers mentioned that at times the knee armor tends to be more on the inside of my knee than the outside while riding. I think I can correct that by trying to maneuver them around before I take off. Overall I am very pleased with these pants so much so that I left this long review. I don't usually leave reviews unless I either feel ripped off or that I got more than my moneys worth and in this case it's definitely the later.